I'm not saying this information isn't useful, but when are we supposed to have time to get any work done?
Every day I have accounting to do about income and expenses.
Every day I work on projects and answer orders and emails.
Every quarter I have to deal with taxing authorities who pay me nothing.
I have no extra staff. Is FACEBOOK designed to increase employment in the USA?
Do these folks who spend so much of their time on Facebook have time for anything else? I know one pharmacist who is so involved in a game she is heading up that it is killing her time.
I'm all for publicity, PR, marketing and such, but trying to establish a web site and every other social phenomenon is intensive and expensive. And how about the "customers" who will be looking in on me? Is everyone becoming a couch potato?
The dips who keep proposing all this stuff as well as promoting all this stuff, they are writing books and blogs (and boring the hell out of the rest of us)... there is immediately something in it for them... but what about me?
"Keep up or fall behind?" What is it I am falling behind on? Where is the PROOF that there is money in these "time users?" I never see real world examples of how all this is better than what we are already doing?
Lastly, once again, where do we get the time for all of this? It must be to ignore something else, such as our family, our significant other... delete having fun anymore.
It bugs me. I don't see the economy reviving under all this Facebook stuff, do you?
I agree. I do not have a Facebook account, nor do I plan to create one. People can brand themselves all they want, but it won't do a bit of good, the direction this country, our economy, and our dollar are going. People need to wake up and pay attention to what the government is doing. Cap and Trade has already passed in the House; if it passes in the Senate, that's it for us. Please inform yourselves about this massive, economy-crippling TAX--and the fact that it does NOTHING to help the planet! I am no dooms-dayer; I simply pay attention to what's really going on. This was a great country, that countless people DIED for, and we are letting it slip away, day by day. Forget the fluff news, and watch what Congress is doing--for you and your children's own good!
Maybe if you stopped whining about the amount of work or how the Great Apocalypse is coming, you would both understand that this is how to use FB as a marketing tool. If you think that this is a microcosm for the decline of the U.S., then move somewhere where you think it's better. And, for those that don't understand: you need to market your business.
Wow, such a comment. I can understand how frustrated you are trying to do everything. Yes, the internet in some ways does add to our time demands, but it is also very powerful in potentially making our jobs easier by easier access to customers.
Perhaps you need to read some books / information about how to properly use the internet business tools available.
Check out: Internet Business Mastery. Read the 4 hour work week.
Great article! I've only been on Facebook to catch up with friends and have not really focused on marketing there. This has inspired me to give it a try.
Dave, fantastic article! I was wondering how some stories ended up in the right hand column and other didn't. ;-)
To the first commenter: I think the point about using Facebook, or Twitter, or a blog, is that these are all free or quite inexpensive ways to advertise your services; and in some cases (depending on the type of client you serve), far more effective than more traditional venues like yellow pages display ads, magazine ads, radio ads, flyers slipped on doors, etc.
In this economy especially, creatives are hungry for low-cost, effective ways to market themselves. Dave hit one of the sweet spots with this article.
Dave, the article is absolutely great. I've used Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube, but thought of Facebook as a friendly chatboard and never bothered with its potential. Everything has its possibilities if you are smart enough to use them. Social media is here to stay, there is no before, only after.
design247, interactive art director
Wow, thanks everyone for the wonderful comments! Glad this article is hitting the spot for so many of you.
Also, wanted to mention that I was on WBEZ (Chicago Public Radio) this morning, talking with comedian Jimmy Carrane about the lighter side of Facebook. If anyone wants to hear that, you can listen online here:
It was really nice (not to mention fair) of the editor to remove my comment. I said something in response to the first poster, whose comment still (mysteriously) remains. There was nothing in my comment that was profane or otherwise inappropriate. I think that the state of the economy is relevant to the article (and of course, the comment that I was responding to). The thing that irks me the most is that, article after article, gene gable makes hateful, degrading comments about conservatives, yet he is not censored. My post was not even party-affiliated. Good job, creativeamateur.com.
Just an update on your comment: it was in an approval queue, slated for this article (not where it should have been.)
We do not remove any comments posted by our readers, other than obvious SPAM. (if you want to resell your old gold earrings, look elsewhere!)
We want to make sure that your comment gets the same attention as all the others, and thanks for the honesty in it. My apologies for any confusion.
Thank you so much for responding so quickly about the alleged "censorship." I appreciate your attention to this matter, and I enjoy reading many of the articles on this site. To Dave Awl: this was a well-written, informative article, and I meant no criticism of you, just FYI! Also, there is a lot of truth to the idea that changing with the times in our business practices will only help us grow in our careers. Thanks, creativepro ;) .
Great article. I have a question. I have my FB personal profile linked to my personal Twitter account thru the app Twitter Seletive. So when I want to update my personal FB profile with my latest Tweet, I can do that.
I also have a seperate business Twitter account that I would like to link to my public FB Page in the same way. How do I do that? Is it possible?
It's kind of a strange thing, because on Twitter I have log in and out to switch between accounts, but in Facebook I can freely go between my personal and my public profiles, so linking with seperate Twitter accounts seems like it could be complicated.
I have two more questions to append my question below about Twitter.
First, is there an easy way to get to my FB public pages from my personal FB profile? The only ways I know of right now is thru the search box on the top right or thru the "info" tab then find the page in my "pages" section of my personal profile. There's got to be a faster way, right?
Second, you mention connecting my business blog with my FB public page. How do I do this? I have my personal blog connected with my FB personal profile already. That was easy and makes it so that every time I post on my blog, it gets automatically posted on my FB profile wall. How do I do this with my FB public page?
I wonder if anyone else noticed that the example page pictured in the article features a "huge" photo on the left of the page for 'Best Friend Photography and Design.
I can't see how that's done, all the FB info points to a standard size profile picture, ie a bit bigger than thumbnail size.
TIME
I'm not saying this information isn't useful, but when are we supposed to have time to get any work done?
Every day I have accounting to do about income and expenses.
Every day I work on projects and answer orders and emails.
Every quarter I have to deal with taxing authorities who pay me nothing.
I have no extra staff. Is FACEBOOK designed to increase employment in the USA?
Do these folks who spend so much of their time on Facebook have time for anything else? I know one pharmacist who is so involved in a game she is heading up that it is killing her time.
I'm all for publicity, PR, marketing and such, but trying to establish a web site and every other social phenomenon is intensive and expensive. And how about the "customers" who will be looking in on me? Is everyone becoming a couch potato?
The dips who keep proposing all this stuff as well as promoting all this stuff, they are writing books and blogs (and boring the hell out of the rest of us)... there is immediately something in it for them... but what about me?
"Keep up or fall behind?" What is it I am falling behind on? Where is the PROOF that there is money in these "time users?" I never see real world examples of how all this is better than what we are already doing?
Lastly, once again, where do we get the time for all of this? It must be to ignore something else, such as our family, our significant other... delete having fun anymore.
It bugs me. I don't see the economy reviving under all this Facebook stuff, do you?
Time to Wake Up
I agree. I do not have a Facebook account, nor do I plan to create one. People can brand themselves all they want, but it won't do a bit of good, the direction this country, our economy, and our dollar are going. People need to wake up and pay attention to what the government is doing. Cap and Trade has already passed in the House; if it passes in the Senate, that's it for us. Please inform yourselves about this massive, economy-crippling TAX--and the fact that it does NOTHING to help the planet! I am no dooms-dayer; I simply pay attention to what's really going on. This was a great country, that countless people DIED for, and we are letting it slip away, day by day. Forget the fluff news, and watch what Congress is doing--for you and your children's own good!
The First 2 Commenters Don't Get It
Maybe if you stopped whining about the amount of work or how the Great Apocalypse is coming, you would both understand that this is how to use FB as a marketing tool. If you think that this is a microcosm for the decline of the U.S., then move somewhere where you think it's better. And, for those that don't understand: you need to market your business.
Thanks!
Great article. I just bought the e-book for Facebook me! Well written and entertaining.
Feel your pain
Wow, such a comment. I can understand how frustrated you are trying to do everything. Yes, the internet in some ways does add to our time demands, but it is also very powerful in potentially making our jobs easier by easier access to customers.
Perhaps you need to read some books / information about how to properly use the internet business tools available.
Check out: Internet Business Mastery. Read the 4 hour work week.
Best of luck
Thanks Dave
Great article! I've only been on Facebook to catch up with friends and have not really focused on marketing there. This has inspired me to give it a try.
Dave, fantastic article! I
Dave, fantastic article! I was wondering how some stories ended up in the right hand column and other didn't. ;-)
To the first commenter: I think the point about using Facebook, or Twitter, or a blog, is that these are all free or quite inexpensive ways to advertise your services; and in some cases (depending on the type of client you serve), far more effective than more traditional venues like yellow pages display ads, magazine ads, radio ads, flyers slipped on doors, etc.
In this economy especially, creatives are hungry for low-cost, effective ways to market themselves. Dave hit one of the sweet spots with this article.
AM
Facebook as part of the free media for marketing
Dave, the article is absolutely great. I've used Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube, but thought of Facebook as a friendly chatboard and never bothered with its potential. Everything has its possibilities if you are smart enough to use them. Social media is here to stay, there is no before, only after.
design247, interactive art director
Thanks (and a public radio link)
Wow, thanks everyone for the wonderful comments! Glad this article is hitting the spot for so many of you.
Also, wanted to mention that I was on WBEZ (Chicago Public Radio) this morning, talking with comedian Jimmy Carrane about the lighter side of Facebook. If anyone wants to hear that, you can listen online here:
Dave Awl on Studio 312, WBEZ Chicago
Censored
It was really nice (not to mention fair) of the editor to remove my comment. I said something in response to the first poster, whose comment still (mysteriously) remains. There was nothing in my comment that was profane or otherwise inappropriate. I think that the state of the economy is relevant to the article (and of course, the comment that I was responding to). The thing that irks me the most is that, article after article, gene gable makes hateful, degrading comments about conservatives, yet he is not censored. My post was not even party-affiliated. Good job, creativeamateur.com.
Re "Censored"
I didn't remove any comments in this thread, nor did anyone on my staff. Feel free to post again.
Terri Stone
Editor in Chief, CreativePro.com
Re: Censored comment, part 2
Just an update on your comment: it was in an approval queue, slated for this article (not where it should have been.)
We do not remove any comments posted by our readers, other than obvious SPAM. (if you want to resell your old gold earrings, look elsewhere!)
We want to make sure that your comment gets the same attention as all the others, and thanks for the honesty in it. My apologies for any confusion.
Tim Hoffer
Site Manager, CreativePro.com
Censored? Not Even!
Thank you so much for responding so quickly about the alleged "censorship." I appreciate your attention to this matter, and I enjoy reading many of the articles on this site. To Dave Awl: this was a well-written, informative article, and I meant no criticism of you, just FYI! Also, there is a lot of truth to the idea that changing with the times in our business practices will only help us grow in our careers. Thanks, creativepro ;) .
Question about Twitter and Pages
Great article. I have a question. I have my FB personal profile linked to my personal Twitter account thru the app Twitter Seletive. So when I want to update my personal FB profile with my latest Tweet, I can do that.
I also have a seperate business Twitter account that I would like to link to my public FB Page in the same way. How do I do that? Is it possible?
It's kind of a strange thing, because on Twitter I have log in and out to switch between accounts, but in Facebook I can freely go between my personal and my public profiles, so linking with seperate Twitter accounts seems like it could be complicated.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Two More FB Page Questions
I have two more questions to append my question below about Twitter.
First, is there an easy way to get to my FB public pages from my personal FB profile? The only ways I know of right now is thru the search box on the top right or thru the "info" tab then find the page in my "pages" section of my personal profile. There's got to be a faster way, right?
Second, you mention connecting my business blog with my FB public page. How do I do this? I have my personal blog connected with my FB personal profile already. That was easy and makes it so that every time I post on my blog, it gets automatically posted on my FB profile wall. How do I do this with my FB public page?
Thanks again for any info you can provide.
Pages image
I wonder if anyone else noticed that the example page pictured in the article features a "huge" photo on the left of the page for 'Best Friend Photography and Design.
I can't see how that's done, all the FB info points to a standard size profile picture, ie a bit bigger than thumbnail size.
Any ideas.. as I'd like a bigger one too!
Last post...
I get it. I found her site and see that if your profile picture is in portrait orientation then it extends lower..still 200 px wide.